7th car announcement

[Demonic Cat]

It doesn't seem like a lot of bang for buck.

No it doesn’t look that way but if one could swing it finically it would be tough initial to lay out that cash but long term resale it would absolutely not loose value. That would be a highly sought after option.

Savvy folks should buy a few extra set of special tires with logo and store them properly. Then just grab Regular MT 315/50R 17 without the logo to tool around or track it.

 

[Demonic Cat]

I enjoy the shade slamming back during launch so the sun comes in and blinds me.

Wonder if this new 2 Gs force can pull the sunshade open for auto shade open on sunroof cars. Of course that option is free for the overpriced sunroof option. Just cost of of extra gas to stab pedal. Just thinking out loud 🤣

 

[Demonic Cat]

What was the top speed the sunroof blows up? 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Haven't done it yet 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂.

Ah local test pilots confirm current challenger platform hardware acceptance test reports of 192 is certified to stay intact.

 

[vortecd]

No it doesn’t look that way but if one could swing it finically it would be tough initial to lay out that cash but long term resale it would absolutely not loose value. That would be a highly sought after option.

Savvy folks should buy a few extra set of special tires with logo and store them properly. Then just grab Regular MT 315/50R 17 without the logo to tool around or track it.

Missed the logo on them

 

[Demonic Cat]

Did they, shit I thought the put it there. Talk about lost Easter Egg opportunity. Somebody come up with a 3D printed stick on R2 compound Demon logo

 

[BULL]

No it doesn’t look that way but if one could swing it finically it would be tough initial to lay out that cash but long term resale it would absolutely not loose value. That would be a highly sought after option.

Savvy folks should buy a few extra set of special tires with logo and store them properly. Then just grab Regular MT 315/50R 17 without the logo to tool around or track it.

So I've been putting some thought into this...


...because I know this guy that is developing a really light weight aluminum ceramic rotor that will shave ~70lbs of rotating mass off of a HC/RE Challenger...


So the wheels save 25lbs (or 30lbs???) of rotating weight, I've seen at least two different numbers now...


However, it's at a larger diameter than the rotors, so while the mass is only ~1/3 of the rotor reduction, it's at a larger diameter, therefor the momentum of the 25lbs is a bit greater than if it were at the rotors mean diameter....


It's still not nearly the same as the 70lbs, but it's not trivial either....


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[Demonic Cat]

Yep not just weight that matters it’s also diameter or really radius away from center off mass

 

[vortecd]

So I've been putting some thought into this...


...because I know this guy that is developing a really light weight aluminum ceramic rotor that will shave ~70lbs of rotating mass off of a HC/RE Challenger...


So the wheels save 25lbs (or 30lbs???) of rotating weight, I've seen at least two different numbers now...


However, it's at a larger diameter than the rotors, so while the mass is only ~1/3 of the rotor reduction, it's at a larger diameter, therefor the momentum of the 25lbs is a bit greater than if it were at the rotors mean diameter....


It's still not nearly the same as the 70lbs, but it's not trivial either....


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It was said back in the day that 100 lbs was a 10th but only 10 lbs rotating weight was a 10th. I did not pick up 7 tenths with 70lbs I took off with light weight wheels saying that I would take the 70 lb rotor weight reduction

 

[2ndAmend]

LOL @ Tim K.
I just noticed that the Sunroof is $9,995
roflmao

Sooo, Carbon wheels cost $12k and sunroof is $10k, and you end up paying an extra $22k to get a car just as fast?!?!? LOL! Isn't this like selling weapons to both sides at war??? Does anyone else notice Dodge is getting better at marketing lately?!?!

 

[Smitty]

Maybe they are all about pissing everyone off at this point going forward

I think their plan was to list MSRP much lower than many of us thought, knowing the dealers would jack up the price with huge ADMs, and figure most would be more pissed at the dealers than Dodge. Either way they fucked the people that really wanted this car that aren’t willing to pay the big bucks. I doubt we’ll ever see one of these on the streets since most will be in millionaires collections collecting dust in their warehouse.

 

[2ndAmend]

I think the recent crazy appreciation might subside with this new one, but a nice Demon will never be worth below MSRP ever again and still probably command $125k+...but going forward it will probably be like Grand National/GNX procing and differences between the original Demon and the Demon 170.

Probably true that they will hold value, but the same $ invested well will increase in value. Not to mention storage, maintenance, insurance and storage costs.

 

[2ndAmend]

Can I sleep now???

Sleep is overrated.

 

[2ndAmend]

Just stumbled onto this:
https://www.stellpower.com/news-2023/dodge-challenger-srt-demon-170-1025-horsepower/

There is no special computer to install: from the factory, the Demon 170 will run on anything between 93-octane gasoline and E85, with the computer adjusting on the fly for the fuel detected. The engine computer monitors the level of ethanol in the system; when it finds more than 65% ethanol, all 1,025 horsepower is unlocked without the driver doing anything. ​

Let me know when I can buy one of these computers!!!

 

[2ndAmend]

That whole situation is confounding. They know there's going to be backlash.

They could care less about us, it's all about maximizing profit on the last of the ICE then selling EV's to the woke.

 

[Hellcatcfp]

To avoid the penalties of markups with Dodge, couldn't the dealers just keep the allocations for themselves then turn around and sell for big $$$?

At $96,666 I would consider getting one. Keeping an eye on my local dealers but doubt it will be possible at MSRP.

Curious to see how this all plays out.

 

[2ndAmend]

I think their plan was to list MSRP much lower than many of us thought, knowing the dealers would jack up the price with huge ADMs, and figure most would be more pissed at the dealers than Dodge. Either way they fucked the people that really wanted this car that aren’t willing to pay the big bucks. I doubt we’ll ever see one of these on the streets since most will be in millionaires collections collecting dust in their warehouse.

Interesting. So this is maybe a bribe/reward they send to compliant dealers that will push Rams, Jeeps, and EV's the hardest?

 

[Demonic Cat]

I think the recent crazy appreciation might subside with this new one, but a nice Demon will never be worth below MSRP ever again and still probably command $125k+...but going forward it will probably be like Grand National/GNX procing and differences between the original Demon and the Demon 170.

Good analogy Grand National to GNX like Demon to Demon DC170

 

[Hellcatcfp]

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

 

[BULL]

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

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Well apparently they didn't learn THAT lesson the first time around....

 

[Hellcatcfp]

Well apparently they didn't learn THAT lesson the first time around....

No article was attached...assumed a joke. But, you never know.