Keep an eye out for this upgrade to your 6.2, tuning w/o voiding warranty... WTF!

[BULL]

This is pretty cool and should have come a long time ago. Pulley and HO tune in a package is great.

However why are so many of you worried about a warranty? It's not like these cars break very often and when they do its relatively cheap to fix them.

Ok Mr. #7...

 

[06SRT10NR]

so then the Demon version would just about have to include an SC upgrade to the 3.0, plus the 3.17" pulley, slightly higher capacity injectors, PCM and TCM tuning ... for Demon stage 1
and for Demon stage two, Hellephant motor and upgraded trans ... nothing special, just enough to ensure Tmi can keep his promise

 

[Speedy!]

Let’s see, mine has broke about half the times we have used it on road courses. Major failures in 2 of 3 years now. That last little problem was as serious as your big one @Speedy!

I appreciate the Dodge coverage to fix my car and respect their rules while it is eligible.

Interesting, I guess I had forgotten your issues but I guess you got lucky getting things covered that broke with track use since that's technically not covered?

Ok Mr. #7...

That's true, but honestly the replacement motor wasn't all that much in relative terms and while that has happened to other cars it's still a rare occurrence statistically. Mine broke at the track so wouldn't have been covered either way if I understand the warranty terms correctly.

My view is life is short and I'd rather do what I want to really enjoy the car and not worry with a warranty. If it breaks I'll fix it. I can tell you 100% my enjoyment with the car has rewarded me at least 5X what that motor cost me to replace. I figure eventually I'll break a diff or axle and I'll just replace that when it happens and keep enjoying the car. I keep a "fix the car" fund which is well funded now since I've not had any issues since the engine failure 3 years ago so I may be in a different position.

 

[DGatzby]

Interesting, I guess I had forgotten your issues but I guess you got lucky getting things covered that broke with track use since that's technically not covered?



That's true, but honestly the replacement motor wasn't all that much in relative terms and while that has happened to other cars it's still a rare occurrence statistically. Mine broke at the track so wouldn't have been covered either way if I understand the warranty terms correctly.

My view is life is short and I'd rather do what I want to really enjoy the car and not worry with a warranty. If it breaks I'll fix it. I can tell you 100% my enjoyment with the car has rewarded me at least 5X what that motor cost me to replace. I figure eventually I'll break a diff or axle and I'll just replace that when it happens and keep enjoying the car. I keep a "fix the car" fund which is well funded now since I've not had any issues since the engine failure 3 years ago so I may be in a different position.

Technically you cannot race. You may go to the strip and the track. A HPDE day is not racing. That is particularly important and stressed in the safety briefings also.

Same for a Test and Tune event where a singular owner is taking it out and not doing any competition. Similar in the warranty eyes.

Do a “hot lap” that is recorded, or simply bracket race and/or record times for any competitive reason and your racing. Not covered.

 

[Speedy!]

Interesting I did not know that.

 

[Ralph]

Wishing and hoping!

 

[Boris]

The Demon came out in 2018 that's 4 model years ago as long as dodge doesn't make another DEMON they kept their promise. As far as keeping up with the market trend AKA horsepower wars yeah they have to remain relevant. And if the Demon owners get pissy so be it I met and know some Demon owners that are just car guys with a super cool car but then there are some that are like the corvette /Shelby owners that think they are better than most because the finagled there way into an allocation. And you know the type. in the Shelby world, they have the Shelby hat Shelby jacket Shelby socks buy the super snake package, and then get all pissed off when a local goes to the dyno at shelbyfest and out does their power numbers. That's a true story.

I know the type and that is what i was referring too.
When the RE came out - there were some angry owners.
Then S/S made it worse.

But Dodge has kept the Demon king so far. But many rumors that GM is coming with 850hp with the ZR1 C8.
And also rumors that Dodge might be bringing an end of a generation special edition etc. I just don't see them sitting idle and they would have to surpass the Demon at some point.

 

[Speedy!]

Remember Stellantis isn't really into muscle cars. Not sure if that'll impact plans or not but no more SRT right?

 

[Demoniccat]

Remember Stellantis isn't really into muscle cars. Not sure if that'll impact plans or not but no more SRT right?

There is some truth to your point. Stellantis isn‘t as focused on performance across the the whole brand line as their singular Dodge brand still is thus far. I think Dodge did a excellent job trying to appeal to a broad base utilizing only a few vehicle platforms that are simple point A to point B vehicle while appealing to the masses all the way up to raw performance. In addition utilizing the same basic design for many many years, and being grocery getting friendly through out the entire line up.

Put quite simply very few Muscle car rooted vehicles remain available to the public (Bet GM is wishing they didn’t stuff the Chief into the grave so soon, the Pontiac division was synonymous with muscle). FCA must have done extensive market analysis on their Dodge muscle car line they carefully groomed prior to going forward with design/ R&D for the next generational platform. I think that market research data was used to determine the direction of R&D for their inevitable new platform that most think is still a viable market. Stellantis may have acquired a brand line named Dodge that was to far along with R&D money to pull the plug on. I think the question is will they be able to take the next platform to such a wide market base with muscle style, performance, appeal without bastardizing the product as other manufacturers have done and lost their way. I am brand loyal only to a certain point. If they loose their roots I am out.

 

[Demoniccat]

This is pretty exciting, so it will be $1200 + $400 + $1200, still under 3 grand and my extended warranty/service contract will stay intact? Yes please!

subscribed.

 

[Speedy!]

I hope you're right @Demoniccat I just worry a European car company wont understand the US enthusiast market these cars are aimed at.

My 2009 Challenger was an obvious parts bin car built on a shoestring budget. I think those early models were a market experiment and paved the way for some reasonable investment giving us the Hellcat line.

I hope the success of the Hellcat line affords us one more iteration that keeps its roots as you say. Mine is already 5 years old and I hope there's something to look forward to next.

 

[Magnified]

Wishing and hoping! View attachment 57365

That sticker would be covered up by the permanent splitter protector.....

 

[MikeD1]

Same PCM in all 18+ cars so realistically there is nothing stopping them from a base hellcat package as well as the redeye packages.

But...factory warranty at 885hp? Hell yeah. Might be enough to make me trade up.

I would love to see them offer something like this for the base Hellcat, even if it did not have as much HP !

 

[Matt someone with an SRT]

I’d like to just get the stage 1. I wonder what the torque increase is? If it’s 770 instead of 707 or what that number is? And what’s the torque number for the stage 2? Demon power on pump gas has a nice ring to it.. especially for 1000 bucks or less installed by the local dealer

 

[DGatzby]

I’ll pay the $1,000 to cure the damn hiccup!

 

[DGatzby]

Looking at three Forums this morning. 1pm EST today is the Dodge announcement on Direct Connect and other things. It was posted to be on Dodge.com. Anyone else have some better info before then, help us out.

 

[Matt someone with an SRT]

Actually now that I look at it the stage 1 kit is only 500 dollars less than stage 2... might just be worth going the stage 2.. however I really don’t want to put a smaller pulley on the car to stress the engine more in that manner. I’ve already had my own issues with the pulley.. anyone know if the PSI boost from the supercharger is increased on the stage 1 and 2? If so what’s the new Max output? Is stage 2 running like 17 psi?

 

[HWDan]

Factory tuner ? I don't know what the current crop of tuners look like and if this is a rebranding of any of them?

 

[Boris]

Probably a rebranding of a current handheld unit.

Devices are cheap though so maybe Dodge paid them a premium to use it???

 

[Boris]

So he mentioned the Demon and parts while showing a converter then I think suspension pieces after it.

Think they offer the Demon stuff the S/S and RE don't have as to make a clone for the strip?
Im pretty sure Tim K said "parts from the Demon" Need to rewatch it.