Speedys Horsepower Prediction On The Last Hellcat

[Paladin06]

I’m taking a hard pass on anything EV.

 

[Speedy!]

The bottom line for me.....they're not ready. People who adopt now will have a life of incompatibility, subscription services, and empty wallets. We're in that stage of early cell phones before things became commoditized and standard. That's not even considering hot rodding and modding cars.

I'd like to see some data on price per mile EV vs ICE removing any gubment payouts, which is a whole other issue that makes my blood boil, considering my time to charge, how much electricity is from clean renewable resources, including battery production, mining nickle, etc.

Bet that's hard to find

 

[Magnified]

I have to look at myself in the mirror every day and I want to have a reputation of being transparent. I think the CDM thing probably started off with good intention back in 2019 when the idea was conceived. Then COVID put it all on hold, Stellantis bought Dodge, and now it's electric cars. It went from a brand ambassador, which I would have been super interested in, to someone they want to promote the transition to electric cars which I'm not at all interested in. I've mentioned before they asked about how I felt about the electric car program several times and I was honest with my answers, while obviously being professional. My candid feedback was that they should have an electric car to have an offering in that segment, but replacing cars like Hellcat with an electric car wasn't a good idea. When they asked me if the $150K would impact my career decisions, I told them "no, I'll do it for free". That was before I realized what was going on though.

The Dodge folks at CDM kept mentioning the desire to work with all of us in other capacities. However, I've not heard a word from them, never heard back when I asked for some swag for ChallengerFest, and I don't think anyone else has heard form them either. They're only about 1/3 of the through the year, so maybe we'll hear from them.

Interesting. I thinknfrom other corporate machines that you are spot on. The pos was green lighted, then covid and stellantis happened, and then the program was altered and backing became only half hearted with multiple competing objectives which actually hobble the whole program.

 

[Paladin06]

The elephant in the room is the hundreds of millions of dollars the government is giving these companies to go green. Those are our tax dollars. Why is everyone afraid to tell the truth. EV's should be called LEV. EV's like everything else on the liberal agenda, it'a all about control.

 

[DGatzby]

Oh there is a line or two in that bill that will kick off BILLIONS of dollars of projects because of tax write-off’s. It has some very important wording that some of us hope stays in the bill. I hate to say that. But what the fuck, if a game is going to be played we might as well play it if we understand it. Granted it will indeed help the entire “green” movement. But it will create a very large demand for some fundamental construction workers, equipment and materials (mostly rebar and pipe manufactured in the USA) and maintain inflationary pressures due to the stupid previous infrastructure package of bullshit projects.

 

[DavidKFla]

Oh there is a line or two in that bill that will kick off BILLIONS of dollars of projects because of tax write-off’s. It has some very important wording that some of us hope stays in the bill. I hate to say that. But what the fuck, if a game is going to be played we might as well play it if we understand it. Granted it will indeed help the entire “green” movement. But it will create a very large demand for some fundamental construction workers, equipment and materials (mostly rebar and pipe manufactured in the USA) and maintain inflationary pressures due to the stupid previous infrastructure package of bullshit projects.

It's the " anti carbon" movement which is the building block of all life on this planet.
First thing to go is all plant life and all oxygen dependant life immediately follows as we all suffocate.
Just another genocide which keeps repeating itself.

 

[DavidKFla]

It's the " anti carbon" movement which is the building block of all life on this planet.
First thing to go is all plant life and all oxygen dependant life immediately follows as we all suffocate.
Just another genocide which keeps repeating itself.

@Paladin06 you should do your own research.

 

[Paladin06]

@Paladin06 you should do your own research.

I promise I will if, you stop worrying about death. Deal?

 

[DavidKFla]

I promise I will if, you stop worrying about death. Deal?

I'm not. I'm focused on protecting my family.

 

[DGatzby]

David your problem is going to be sitting under the sun all day with me and P this winter
You can’t dress like an oil baron either and cover yourself!

 

[DavidKFla]

David your problem is going to be sitting under the sun all day with me and P this winter
You can’t dress like an oil baron either and cover yourself!

I'm going to wear my Florida man hat.

 

[Illegal_Demon]

The elephant in the room is the hundreds of millions of dollars the government is giving these companies to go green. Those are our tax dollars. Why is everyone afraid to tell the truth. EV's should be called LEV. EV's like everything else on the liberal agenda, it'a all about control.

And yet oil companies (oil companies??) are still getting subsidies as well. After 150 years I think they can stand on their own. How about NO handouts for ANY industry? That's a stance I can get behind...

 

[Paladin06]

And yet oil companies (oil companies??) are still getting subsidies as well. After 150 years I think they can stand on their own. How about NO handouts for ANY industry? That's a stance I can get behind...

How about no hand outs period including, I don’t want to pay for some snowflakes college education.

 

[BULL]

How about no hand outs period including, I don’t want to pay for some snowflakes college education.

Social Security doesn't bother me

 

[DavidKFla]

Social Security doesn't bother me

It's not a handout but it's not an equitable program. Gubberment makes all the money and only gives back a small percentage.

 

[Paladin06]

Social Security doesn't bother me

It's a not hand out when they give you back your money brother.

 

[Paladin06]

It's not a handout but it's not an equitable program. Gubberment makes all the money and only gives back a small percentage.

Because they spent it including the interest.

 

[Boris]

https://fordauthority.com/2022/08/f...ev-transition-occurring-faster-than-expected/

Ford stating the EV switch is happening faster than anticipated.
Im sure by 2030, EVs will hold at least 1/3 of the market. Depending on gas prices, it may take over or everything might balance out.

The big 3 American car makers are all ditching gas powered cars by 2035. I can see the next move to get people off of ICE is either outlawing gasoline or taxing it through the roof that you don't want it.

Even then, GM at least is selling EV engine swap kit for older cars. So if I have to go EV, its still going to be a hot rod

 

[Smitty]

https://fordauthority.com/2022/08/f...ev-transition-occurring-faster-than-expected/

Ford stating the EV switch is happening faster than anticipated.
Im sure by 2030, EVs will hold at least 1/3 of the market. Depending on gas prices, it may take over or everything might balance out.

The big 3 American car makers are all ditching gas powered cars by 2035. I can see the next move to get people off of ICE is either outlawing gasoline or taxing it through the roof that you don't want it.

Even then, GM at least is selling EV engine swap kit for older cars. So if I have to go EV, its still going to be a hot rod

With all the old ICE cars out there I don’t see them outlawing gas but I can see them taxing it to the point where most won’t be able to drive them on a daily basis. Wouldn’t surprise me a bit☹️

 

[DavidKFla]

All of this shit is only going to happen if you allow it.